“The problem with the statement 'Listen To Black People' is the suggestion that all black people think the same. Because what happens if you listen to one book, and this book says something else? Then where are you? This book says something completely different about how to counter racism, or how to be as a white person in this fight against racism. There is no general consensus when it comes to a lot of these ideas. There isn't.

I disagree with a lot of my black friends. I disagree with a lot of my white friends. And that's the way it should be. The goal I hope is that we can disagree respectfully, and that we can maybe ask each other: 'why do you feel that way?' rather than saying 'you feel this way because of this'.”